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EDIT: I am not interested in answers to this anymore. A lot of people have missed the point of why I was asking, and given how poorly my first attempt to clarify was received, I think there's no point. I would delete them whole thing if I could.

I appreciate everyone who didn't try to tell me why I shouldn't and just told me how to do it. Thank you for trusting that I might have thought about it for longer than a second.

​Like I said, I don't really care about that. I specifically pointed out that I am interested in this because it's presently impacting the way I think in ways that damage my listening comprehension. I can learn them later. In fact, wanting to learn them later is why I was hoping for a built in setting, so that I wouldn't have to keep tabs on which ones I need to bring back, but I guess I will.

I can understand why this notion does not make sense to you given that they do show up in speech, but it simply would not be that hard to understand from context that プラスチック means plastic, for example, even if I hadn't learned it. Or that ドア means door. I'm trying to prevent myself from forming false associations until I'm more confident in my ability to distinguish basic grammar structures by ear, and that would simply be easier for me personally if on renshuu specifically, I saw fewer of these words. The reason I don't want to hide all loan words without replacing any of them is that I do still want some vocabulary terms for some of these notions at this stage.

I appreciate your concern, truly I do, but I actually know way more about both how languages work in general and how I, in specific, learn languages, than my 30 levels on renshuu might suggest. English is my second and I use it as you've seen. Japanese is my third, fourth if you want to let me cheat and count German (not fluent, uphill battle with that one). I am, I think, sufficiently aware of when a word is actually an inappropriate replacement for another, and I am not naive about the downsides of this. It is simply what I want to do. Just for the sake of answering your (rhetorical) question to show how I think about this, I would use けいび if it were the case that the institutionalized, often militarized aspect was being emphasized in the context in which the word was being used, and the other ones for something else. Sure, some words don't have any appropriate substitution for any context, and that's fine, I'll live with those, but door and coat? I think we'd be excessively cautious there. I'm not a high school kid thoughtlessly replacing every instance of "said" in their creative writing essay with something obnoxious just because they think the repetition is bad.

Not being able to understand the news or academic writing is literally of no concern to me at all right now. It may make no sense to you and that's fine, but the reasons people tend to learn a language are simply not why I'm doing this. And the point of Renshuu as it is designed seems to be that you get what you want, when you want it, how you want it.

Thank you.

I believe that it’s possible to use advanced search to filter out all the katakana words from a list, but I wasn’t able to come up with a simple step-by-step recipe. You might find something I missed if you spend a few minutes playing with it.

While I disagree with removing all loan words from a practicality standpoint, I respect that everyone has different learning methods and language learning goals. I think the best you could do is ignore/block words as they come up in vocab lists, but loanwords are an integral part of the language so it would be difficult to filter all of them out of every aspect of your learning. I can definitely empathize as a multilingual person if sometimes hearing a word that sounds like another language can throw you off for a minute.

​This is key, and while not explicitly listed in renshuu, it's one of the core rules in our discord server: no gatekeeping.

The big difference is that open-minded discussion about the pros and cons of studying styles/contents/etc. is great - it's the "study method XXX is 100% invalid, you're an xxxxx for thinking so" is contrary to the learning we are trying to encourage.

I think everyone here is falling into the first category - they're offering their thoughts for consideration, and that's great. While I don't sense the OP is this at all, there are a lot of beginners who come in with misconceptions about the place and role of katakana (I've seen: I am learning Japanese, and katakana is only for foreign words, so I don't need to learn it), so a healthy exchange of information and viewpoints can and does help people find a more optimal path for many learners :)

How to block all katakana terms:

Step 1 ) Open Advanced search tool

Resources (Tools) -> Advanced Search ->

Step 2) Find all the katakana terms in your lists, schedules, etc.

Words -> Add Words -> My Words -> Add Filter -> About this Term -> Katakana

Step 3) Block those terms

Actions -> Known/Study -> Mark all terms as: Don't study

Optional Step 4)

if you only want to block "loan words" and not all katakana, scan through the list of terms, and unclick the hide icon beside any katakana terms that are not "loan words"

Repeat this every time you add a new list or schedule

Alternatively, as previously suggested, you can block them as they appear in your quizzes.

Edit: added step 4 to address issue with not all katakana being "loan words"

​I know katakana isn't automatically a loan word. I was specifically asking about loan words for reasons I did explain though. I know some onomatopoeia are written in katakana or that sometimes it's just for emphasis.

​I know they're in the dictionary and I know they're specific. Come on. I even said heck. That first line was in jest.

The original poster has removed the first message. While the other replies will remain, I think this is a good time to wrap up this thread.