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Changes A into a noun
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It was fun listening to my little sister's song.
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         みやこ         
Ah, what we just heard was Ms. Miyako's voice, right?
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                こと   
It's tough to learn a foreign language, but it's worth doing.
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AVerb
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(going)

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こと
Basic Examples:
(singing)

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Any difference between こと and の?
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リンク・リンク
Level: 1366

to my understanding, の is more subjective and concrete, like something you can actually touch while こと is more objective and abstract like toughts

but it seems like it's a rather loose definition, i've seen both used as in

むのがき and むことがき, but the first one being more used in speech and the second in writings/formal settings
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Tristepin222
Level: 81
might be a little late but according to my teacher, it depends on the verb after こと/の

こと is used mainly for things related with speech, eg. す、える、える、じる, etc.

の is used mainly for senses, eg. る、く、etc. but also include つ、う、やめる and める.

Of course, there are some verbs where both can be used. They are: る、す、れる、える、める、する、わかる and づく.

On the other hand, these rules are completely disregarded when using set phrases like ことにする.

I dont really know if that’s all but hope this helps :)
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Gvf
Level: 200
の is used in a more direct way, like the action of the verb, for example, "くのがきです" (I like drawing), it has a nuance that, in the example, you like drawing as an action. Conversely, こと is used to indicate the essence of the verb, for example "していることをいている” (I'm listening to what he`s saying), it has the nuance that he`s listening to the contents of what he said, not the action of him talking. It's hard at firts, ut try to find example sentences and you'll get the hang of it eventually, hope this helps :D
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サロマ
Level: 69

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マイコー
Level: 337
90% sure that you still leave the する!
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15 years ago
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Joee
Level: 65
Is there any difference how/when these are used? It's been bugging me for a while!
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15 years ago
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Level: 160

I notice that the example 「ぶのは、だがやりがいのだ。」has blue around the expected 「ぶの」but also the 「は」is this just a mistake or does the 「のは」 relate to a different usage of the grammar term?

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マイコー
Level: 337

Just a mistake - a bit aggressive on the marking. It is fixed now, thanks!

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10 years ago
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Level: 160

Thank you for the clarification ^_^

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10 years ago


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