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There are some kanji that I'm pretty sure are used exclusively in names (places, people specifically). As a person who relies heavily on words for memorizing kanji readings, it would be great to have a "memory anchor" for these kanji as welI.

What I'm asking for essentially boils down to incorporating JMnedict into Renshuu in some way.

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18 days ago
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It's a bit more work, but you can make custom terms for them. I've added close to 300 custom names myself.

There's also a Study Group ("Community List Builders") that can help you with finding good terms for those kanji. That's probably your best bet until something more "official" gets added.

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18 days ago
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マイコー
Level: 346

There is indeed jmnedict, and I would love to add it in at some point. However, due to 23 or 24 year-old me not being smart about how I set up my dictionary originally, I believe a significant amount of work would be done to a)add that into the main dictionary and also b)prevent it from polluting any number of places within renshuu (as most searches, false answers, parsing, etc. is not going to be interested in those). It's b) that is the most troublesome. A lot of renshuu was written at a point where I had a better idea of how to properly structure data, models, etc., but too much of it is still scattered, so there are many spots I'd need to add filtering into to prevent those from appearing.

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15 days ago
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柳 ぱぶ郎
Level: 209

And what about adding *another* dictionary (like there are already 4 different ones (word, kanji, grammar, sentences) for proper names ? In context it would most probably be clear a given string is a proper name, but where is the place, is the person know, or even simply how to pronounce it, are interesting things to have.

Then the existing proper nouns in "words" could be moved there (like 孫悟空、西遊記) and much more aded (like 沙悟浄 or 猪八戒; or even ボブ)

The advantage of having a "proper nouns" bag in renshuu is that it opens the possibility to study them

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10 days ago
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antimonysarah
Level: 989

What I'd like is an ability to add them when pulling in a text into the analyzer -- mark things as names for a text so that it doesn't try to analyze them as words.

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8 days ago
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antimonysarah (11月1日, 17:19)

What I'd like is an ability to add them when pulling in a text into the analyzer -- mark things as names for a text so that it doesn't try to analyze them as words.

​If you surround the word with square brackets, it will be treated “as a name” in the sense that it won’t be bound to the dictionary and will have a popup that says it’s a name.

If you put a double-slash inside the square brackets, everything after that will be treated as furigana.

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8 days ago
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マイコー
Level: 346

1. Another dictionary would work *if* no one expected it to be integrated anywhere else, but I doubt that is the case. A dictionary is "easy", but then adding them to lists, quizzes, parsing (sentences) would be such a nightmare that bringing it into the original dictionary would be (by far) the easiest solution. Not easy, but the easiest.

2. Text analyzer will most likely never support proper nouns, even if they were added to renshuu's word dictionary. This is a computational issue. The core parser/tokenizer that the TA uses is already not the fastest, a significant drain on server resources (and it's barely used - if it really took off in renshuu, I'd probably have to greatly restrict the size of texts going in). This is a gross oversimplification, but a tokenizer's speed is proportional to the size of the dictionary underneath it. The proper nouns dictionary is I think ..700k entries? That would bring roughly triple the size of the dictionary, and probably slow down the TA by a factor of 8-10x

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