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So, the entire extension done over the last couple of days is this:
When doing definition (or listening) to kana questions, show the kanji as well for context. So, my test example was 漢字/かんじ.
Previously, if I knew one of the kanji, it would show me that kanji, with kana for the other one. Something like 漢じ. However, with the change, it now shows 漢字, with furigana over the 字. Similarly, if I didn't know either kanji, it would still show me 漢字, but with furigana over both.
However, with the fix I made above (furigana showing even for known kanji), a new issue appeared. Say I know both kanji (characters) for 漢字. The answer would show as above. It's no longer a definition -> hiragana question! The hiragana is completely absent on two of the characters.
This is no longer the question type (or study vector, if we're doing schedules) that was requested. It's more of a blend, and that is not desired here. Perhaps a new question type in the future, but not now.
So, for now, I rolled back the earlier fix to hide known furigana while this is discussed.
Huh, I didn't notice that was happening when I was studying today, though I've been learning kanji recently, and doing more kanji questions, plus I use "tap to reveal choices".
In my opinion, kana questions shouldn't use kanji for any of the answers, like it is with this setting off. I think you should see the words kana only, which I'm just now realizing is how this feature worked before, haha
I don't study both vectors separately, I use the combined "meaning -> japanese" study vector, so if I see a kana selection question, it's most likely a kana-only word anyway, moreso as my kanji coverage expands. That also means that if my selections are three words with kanji, and one kana-only word, it kind of betrays the correct answer.
My use case for this feature is so that when I learn a word, and only know partial kanji, I see the full word in full kanji, as it would be written in the wild, rather than some kanji/kana combination that no native speaker would ever write. Essentially I want to see this:
But nothing like this:
so that I get a better feel for what the word looks like for real (and pick up some recognition along the way for when I actually study the missing kanji!)
If some people want kanji + furigana in the kana questions, perhaps you could split the option?
Disabled | Furigana for Kanji Answers | Kanji + Furigana for All Answers
And then I guess for the kana questions you would force furigana on for all kanji, and leave it unknown-only for Kanji questions. Or you could make another option selector, but that probably overcomplicates things even more.
That's my take on the issue, hope it helps!
add the top i have a feature that forces me to write the word again if i had it wrong but now with this feature i have to write the kanji with it extra, even if i have never seen the kanji before.
gillian: I'd love a screenshot of the sub-optimal kana-only question that you got (or rather, an example next time you see it)
Just due to me knowing how the Meaning→Japanese vector works, I know that if I'm asked for a hiragana/katakana answer, it's because it's either an all-kana term, or one I haven't studied the kanji of yet (and in my case at this point, not knowing the kanji is a rare occurrence). Therefore if any of the multiple choice options in a kana question are words with kanji I know, I can automatically discount them, which usually makes the real answer stand out.
Even without relying on knowing how the vector works and expecting a kana-only answer upfront, when the question is for a word type with a recognizable pattern in how it's written in kanji (like い-adjectives being 〇い, and onomatopoeia usually being 〇々), I can visually skim and eliminate answers based solely on how they look, without reading the furigana at all (which is what the kana vector is supposed to be testing me on).
Sort of off topic, but I would love to have the ability to remove the hiragana from this on’yomi/kun’yomi answer screen as well. It’s just distracting clutter at this point.
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