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What’s the best way to lean grammar and like practice output too? Thx!
There are grammar lessons under Resources > Japanese Lessons, and also websites and videos online. To practice output write or speak with people
I find video lessons on renshuu pretty helpful for learning
Along with renshuu I suggest you
https://imabi.org/table-of-con...
https://www.tofugu.com/japanes...
All contains grammar.
grammar lessons and then absorb through other means. Grammar is pretty tricky to master because you can learn it in a condensed setting like Renshuu, but its far better to use it and then see it in like conversations/writing.
What I do is learn a new grammar point and then make sentences using it. I also use ChatGPT to give me sentences, either in Japanese or in my own language and I try to read/translate them, I find it pretty reliable (and it can also explain me things that I didn't understand). So far it's been the best way of learning anything, it's tough at first but you learn how to write, vocabulary, sentence making, etc.
Chatgpt is not reliable It wasn't even made to be used that way
What I do is learn a new grammar point and then make sentences using it. I also use ChatGPT to give me sentences, either in Japanese or in my own language and I try to read/translate them, I find it pretty reliable (and it can also explain me things that I didn't understand). So far it's been the best way of learning anything, it's tough at first but you learn how to write, vocabulary, sentence making, etc.
I also do that, but everytime everytime I give my sentence correct to say that is it correct...even though IT IS CORRECT! 😤😤 it says "it doesn't seem natural" and after 5 tries of wasting my precious times it forgets what I said.
I would not say its not reliable, after all its a bot, but what I like about chatgpt is it's "Search" option..I mean it gives data from the all over browser and websites connected to it
. ( I have proof )
Everything has its ups and downs .
Training courses and books to learn grammar. There is grammer lessons in renshuu , too.
Listen/read from native speaker/material -> Try to output by imitating what you listened/read (even if you don't understand the grammar behind) -> Learn grammar once you already know how to speak to deepen your understanding. It also easier to understand grammar that way because you will have a lot pratical example to help you.
Like a native kid who first imitate his parents before learning grammar. That's the best method according to research (and also the how native kids learn). Problem is, unless you're willing to consume kids contents 24h/day at the beginning and move progressively to more complex contents, it won't work as well. Also, it's hard to fully replicate the environnement of a kid (you don't have someone who will be willing to repeat basic words everyday like parent do with their kids).
But still, if you can do it even partially, it will help you a lot. In my case, I didn't use kids content because I found them boring everytime and skipped straight to more complex content (mainly stream and clips on youtube). But the downside was that I didn't understand even 5% at the beginning. But now, I can more or less undertand 80% (even when I can explained the grammar used) and I mainly study grammar from japanese source. I spent month without studying grammar directly too. You don't need to be as extreme as me but it help if you can do it a little bit at the beginning.